[Makoto watches Ibuki's reactions to even just talk about it, and that alone is enough to prove that it wasn't ever something she wanted to do, no matter how outlandish and out of this world the entire scenario seems. Also, she's not really convinced Ibuki's a good liar, all things considered.

How could... one person just do that to other people? Cause them to kill themselves, cause them to fall into despair by making them watch a classmate die. What the hell was wrong with that person!? Even if it led to Ibuki and her classmates doing bad things, how could she even do that. It doesn't change Ibuki's actions, but she's... genuinely sorrowful, and that means a lot, and while bad things happened, it doesn't mean that she herself is automatically a bad person. Doing bad things does not always mean you're a bad person, especially when there are other influences.

Her expression quickly shifts from one of confusion to anger. Her voice is loud, too, when she finally speaks.]

None of that is okay, though! Even if you were saved, no one should have to die or be brainwashed or watch other people die or any of that! What the hell is wrong with her? Damn it...

[It's not okay. Nothing about this entire situation is okay.]